Recent art that you liked

[Artyczar]

Txomsy,

Maybe you didn't get that I personally don't agree with the cave paintings NOT being art. We don't know for sure what the intention behind them was. But I think there's no way the cave painters intended it as art (as we have come to know "art" in today's context). There's no way to know. I believe it is art, and art can't be defined in simple terms. It could have been religious, graffiti, warnings to hunters, worship of the animals, maps...who knows? But, it doesn't really matter because they are beautiful anyway you slice them. Perhaps it was the first true outsider art under the original terms of outsider art. Art for no one and/or anyone-- the maker not being concerned with making their mark as an "artist." Again, meaning an artist as we have come to know it.

I also don't think I am superior or that utility is incompatible with art, and I definitely don't think art is limited to painting.

Just sayin'.

 

[brianvds]

A recent eerie bit by one of my favorite contemporary artists:

Aron Wiesenfeld - The People Outside, 2025. Oil on museum board, 11 x 14 in.

As for the other discussions here, I no longer have any opinions whatever about whether this or that is "really" art. I find I have more rest for my soul that way.

 

[Artyczar]

I love Wiesenfeld.

 

[john]

Art is that other guy in Simon and Garfunkel.

 

[brianvds]

Art is that other guy in Simon and Garfunkel.

"Art who?"

Warning: some foul language. And very bad advice.

 

[brianvds]

Rather like this one, though I think it would look better on a wall than on canvas...

Lady Pink (b Sandra Fabara, 1964) - Malcolm X, 1992. Spray enamel and acrylic on canvas, 127 x 116 cm.

From the information at Gandalf's Gallery:

Lady Pink, (born Sandra Fabara, in Ambato, 1964), is an Ecuadorian-born American graffiti and mural artist, active in New York City. In 1979 she started writing graffiti and soon became well known as the only female capable of competing with the boys in the graffiti subculture. Today, Lady Pink continues to create new paintings on canvas that express her unique personal vision. She also shares her 40 years of experience with teens by holding mural workshops and actively lecturing to college students throughout the world.​

 

[stlukesguild]

Arty; you are correct that our concept of ART was not necessarily shared throughout history or across all cultures. That’s one reason that I don’t share the notion that ART is whatever the artist/creator says it is. Most Medieval artists never even signed their creations… which were often created collaboratively. It wasn’t until the Renaissance that we saw the more contemporary idea of “artists” as opposed to craftsmen. Where earlier patrons simply wanted a portrait or a picture of the Madonna, with the Renaissance the began to desire a Leonardo or Titian. Think how far we are from the earlier thinking. Walking through a museum we look at a painting and think, “Ooh! That’s a Vermeer!” or “That’s a Picasso”… rather than “That’s a painting of apples or a woman.”

I’m not certain just how much the intentions of the creator matter. I might intend that my paintings are profound works of expressive genius… but that doesn’t mean that they are. Some works of art were intended as works of socio-political commentary; others were intended as religious expressions; still other works were intended as narrative, decoration, illustration, memorials, erotica, portraits… and yet within every one of these genre or intentions there are works of masterful art.

One of my studio partners became so frustrated with the endless debates as to what ART is and whether he was an artist that he simply declared “I make images and objects; others can decide whether they are ART or not.

 

[stlukesguild]

Wiesenfeld remains a favorite of mine as well.

 

[brianvds]

Arty; you are correct that our concept of ART was not necessarily shared throughout history or across all cultures. That’s one reason that I don’t share the notion that ART is whatever the artist/creator says it is. Most Medieval artists never even signed their creations… which were often created collaboratively. It wasn’t until the Renaissance that we saw the more contemporary idea of “artists” as opposed to craftsmen.

The early patrons would have been perfectly happy with AI-generated art...

One of my studio partners became so frustrated with the endless debates as to what ART is and whether he was an artist that he simply declared “I make images and objects; others can decide whether they are ART or not.

My own philosophy as well. I find the whole debate rather silly and pointless.

 

[Artyczar]

I never considered myself an artist when I was young. I just had to make stuff. When other people, especially artists, started calling me one, I just assumed they were probably right. But as far as the work I make, I just want to feel good/satisfied that it looks the way I (basically) intended. I have no qualms about whether people feel it's art or what they think it's "about," or rather, wanting to know what I intended it to be about. I believe it's their decision, imagination, interpretation, judgment, and so on. Not mine to spoon-feed them the meaning or WHY. In the past, I've given that up, and people often felt betrayed or disappointed, so I'd rather not explain myself. It's really whatever they want it to be. It doesn't matter what they want or what I want. People are either persuaded by the work to look closer, or they're not. I don't think we have too much control over our work, like whether it sells, whether people like it, are interested in it, or whatever.

So our intentions have little to do with it all.

However, if I create something and others clearly see what I had intended, that's always a plus for the ego.

I don't think artists before the Renaissance had a lot of ego in that regard. They had other reasons for creating, like St. Luke listed above.

 

[stlukesguild]

Too often it seems that the artist’s intentions… or purported intentions lead to the most pretentious statements laden with catch-words and phrases and sheer gobbledygook:

‘My art aims at a void that signifies precisely the non-being of what it represents…’

‘My art practice examines hesitation as part of the process of decision-making, where the object is neither the object of objecthood nor the art-object. It is rather the oblique object of my intentions…’

‘I propose specific intervention within the experiential fabric of our surroundings designed to temporarily yet subtly disrupt posited “standard’ systems of experience, and thereby heighten the understanding of the unique structure of our city and our environment…’

I feel that my intentions are not often clear even to myself which may be why I feel the need to create visual works as opposed to putting these into words. I would also suggest that my intentions while creating a work of art are fluid or ever-changing. As a result, when speaking of my work as an artist I tend to remain centered upon my sources of inspiration.

But perhaps we should return to purpose of this thread: recent art we admire.

 

[Artyczar]

Those statement lines are funny as all hell!

 

[brianvds]

Those statement lines are funny as all hell!

StLuke is truly a master of Artspeak.