Want to share economical100% cotton paper source

Ellen Easton

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Today I discovered an economical 100% cotton paper source on Amazon. These are 9x12 blocks of 20 sheets for $16.99 by Fuumuui. I'm a devoted user of their brushes labeled as sable, so I think probably the paper may be good, too. I've ordered some to try out and will report back once I do that but thought I'd post the link for others who might want to try it too. The price is very good and I hope they keep it at this price but at any rate, how can I not give it a try? The 9x12 is a bigger size than I've found even by Baohong for the price and there are 20 sheets so it's a generous amount of pages, too. Click the word Amazon below.

 
I haven't checked this new paper out yet even though I intended to. Just when it came in the mail, I got the news I was moving to a bigger house so now I'm still getting stuff unpacked and settling in. Then family issues came along---the passing of my children's father yesterday (we divorced many years ago) has caused a kink in the smooth road to having time to paint. So----have you tried the new paper yet, Kay? Maybe tonight I'll get something done on it and if I do I'll post about it here right away.

ETA: Fuumuui also has little 5X7 blocks, too, for $6.90 so I ordered a couple of the small ones, too. They are 20 sheets like the bigger ones.

Here's another kind I found:


It's 5X7 and it's $9.49 for a 20 sheet block.

Meeden is now carrying 100% cotton blocks, too, but I haven't tried or priced them yet.
 
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Okay I finally tried the Fuumuui paper and it's really nice. I tried lifting color and that works very nicely for the colors I tried. I don't have all my paints unpacked yet so I used the only ones I could get to---Sennelier---but normally I use Rosa Gallery. I'm going to try that brand soon on this brand of paper, but the Sennelier paints went on beautifully both wet-on-wet and wet on dry. The colors move nicely on wet-on-wet. I didn't really overwork it to see if the paper pills. I'm not a really knowledgable person on lots of the technicalities of what I should look for to do a review but I'm very pleased with this paper. Although the color lifts quite easily, it doesn't lift the first color when you're doing a second wash. If you lift on purpose it does lift well, but if you're doing a second layer, it doesn't lift the first layer if you don't try to lift, if that makes any sense. Sennelier is known for being great for layering so that might also be a factor.

I use mostly the Fuumuui brushes made from animal hair, and some of those they advertise as Kolinsky sable but I don't know if they really are Kolinsky. I've been very happy with their brushes. And their travel brushes have the wonderful feature of the caps being screw-on so there's no rattling around loose fitting caps like on other brands which I appreciate very much because I really like travel brushes. They even make travel brushes with daggers and flats and if I'm not mistaken, I think I even have a set that's got a filbert or two. And they have a set for travel that doesn't have the screw on caps---they just have wooden handles---but they come in a case and are quite economical.

If you do any shopping for art supplies on Amazon, you really should check out the Fuumuui store because they have lots of brush sets in addition to the watercolor cotton blocks I've mentioned.
 
Thanks Ellen. Looks interesting. I've bookmarked it for later. I'm pretty well supplied with paper right now.

These are also eligible for Amazon Subscribe and Save which lowers the price even further if you order from Amazon regularly.
 
I'm well supplied with paper, too, but was at the point of needing to replenish the supply when I saw this paper. Since I like their brushes, I couldn't resist giving it a try.

I also got Bee sketchbooks in two sizes. I've tried to order some in the past only to find them sold out so when I found them in stock, I jumped on the good fortune.

I don't use subscribe and save because I live on a small income and I don't always need any particular item the next month so it would just be wasteful to buy something I wasn't out of. I do stock up on certain things but not with subscribe and save. I'm also not a very prolific artist which means I don't run out of stuff that often. It's a good deal for those who do, though.
 
Well, the cheap art supply lady is back and I've found another one---Let me know if I'm annoying with these things I find and I'll stop. I'm not starting a new thread with this because maybe that wouldn't be appropriate and might cross the line into really annoying. I do like to share these things because I know it can be hard to find decent art supplies for reasonable prices and especially for people just starting out, it can be hard to find a way to afford it.

Having just stocked up on paper and sketchbooks, I definitely didn't need anything more, BUT----I couldn't resist trying this paper out so I bought 200 sheets of the 7"X10" size. I first carefully considered the reviews and since they were mostly good. I just went for it.

This particular paper compares favorably to Bee paper. It came today and I tried it so I could review it. One Amazon review complained of rippling when wet, and it does do that. I've even used a block of other brands of paper that also rippled, though, but if left on the block till dry, they're usually not too bad. This paper flattens right back out. I couldn't get it to pill. And even though I use just run-of-the-mill bright blue masking tape like you'd use when painting a wall, it didn't tear the surface of the paper. I forgot to check how it is with lifting, but if that's a question anyone has, I'll try it. It's textured on both sides the same.

Anyway, here's the link:


Coming back to add that I'm self-taught and have only been using watercolors for about 5 years, so I speak from that position. I'm not any great shakes as a professional artist. I used to paint in oils and I've sold paintings in oil when I was raising kids as a single parent. With watercolors, I do care about using good materials and am a decent judge of their quality, so I think I can give reliable information but I'm not the last word on the subject by any means.
 
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Thank you, Artyczar. :) I'll continue to share when I uncover something new.

When I first started painting with watercolor I'd look at a pad or block with 15 or 20 pages and priced at $20 or more and I'd cringe and think how expensive that was. Then I'd buy something else that was cheaper. As I've gone on, though, and thought more critically about it, that's really not so expensive. And $30 for 200 sheets is definitely not expensive, all things considered. I used my calculator and that's only about 26 cents per sheet of 7"x10" and you surely can't beat that. Plus, buying pads or blocks of 20 sheets, I asked myself how long it would take me to do that many paintings since I'm not a prolific painter and in reality it would last me months and months at my slow pace. It takes me the full year to finish 30 Christmas paintings, after all.
 
Here's another comment on that cheap paper source I posted about that's 26 cents a page.

I ordered some 5X7 papers from that same source and tried it out. I've seen people say in the Amazon reviews that there are two different textures on this size, different on front and back---I don't find that to be true. Both sides are textured the same. There's no tearing from the tape I've recently tried, either, which is Scotch masking tape for delicate surfaces. The 5X7 sheets are sold for $4.80 for 50 pieces, and tomorrow I'll do some more testing and come back to tell you what I think. The company is called Sadaunbe and it's on Amazon. That's where I get all my stuff----from Amazon.

I also ordered a Fuumuui sketch book they have offered on Amazon now. I haven't tried any of it yet, but I do find that the textures of the paper on each side is different in the sketchbook.. On the front side, it's cold presss' regular texture but on the other side it's a very smooth texture that's almost like hot press. I actually think that's kind of cool---I sometimes use hot press so having a sketch book with both textures pleases me. I think it's kinda nice. It's a 5.5X8.5 spiral bound sketchbook with 22 pages and it's $14.99.

I have another comment about the Fuumuui block I tried in a previous post. I usually take some masking tape and make a loop with it and use that to stick my finished paintings to the wall by just using that tape on the back. When I tried it with the sunset painting I did in the art challenge, it wouldn't work. It wouldn't stick to the paper strongly enough to hold it to the wall. I had used the tape for delicate surfaces, so I thought maybe my other masking tape would work, but no such luck. I really enjoyed painting on that paper and I still recommend it as a decent paper but it must have a sizing issue or something. I'm no real pro so sizing is all I could think of that might be the problem. I really do recommend it as a really nice paper, but my concern is that maybe there will be a problem with using tape to tape down individual sheets instead of using a block. I do have a pad of the same paper, so I'll try taping a sheet down tomorrow to paint on and will come back and tell how it worked with tape.

I just now got curious and checked the paper in the pad rather than the block, and once again, I find that one side is cold pressed's usual texture and and the back side is smooth like hot pressed like in the sketchpad. Well, butter my buns and call me a biscuit ! But it's probably still great for painting( on. I'll be back to report tomorrow.

For those of you who are pro artists you probably might not like any of the cheap stuff I've tried but maybe just for practice or something it might be appealing. And for people who haven't got a bigger budget (like me,) it's great to find cotton paper that isn't expensive.
 
I looked at the back of the painting I did on the Fuumuui block and it's textured, not more smooth like the pages of the pad paper and sketchbook pages. I don't mind the smoother backs on some of it. I still like the paper a lot.
 
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Last night I tried out two things I can review for you here. The 5X7 paper that's from the company (Sadaubne) that sells the 200 sheets of 7X10 for $27 ( for that amount before it was $29) is really nice to work on. I enjoyed just trying things with it. Both sides are textured the same. I taped the 5X7 down with Scotch masking tape for delicate surfaces and tested to see whether the tape would make a firm enough seal to prevent paint from seeping under it and got a very clean, sharp line. No seeping under the tape. Also, I tried to see how it worked with lifting if you were to try to lift out color and it allowed me to lift out clouds with tissue very nicely. I also tried seeing if a second layer of a different color would be a problem and I don't find it to be. It will lift both colors but not completely and that's only if you purposely use a tissue to lift the second, top colorwhen it's very wet. I found that, due to my not being very careful, taking that tape off did tear the edge of the paper in one tiny area but that's because I just abruptly pulled it off on that side without doing it carefully. It doesn't tear if one is patient and pulls slowly toward the side with a slantwise pull. I put lots of water on and the paint flowed really beautifully while the paper had sheen, but there wasn't a large amount of rippling at all from so much water. It dried in about an hour and was back to its nice, flat state. The paper company on Amazon is Sadaunbe.

So that's two---the 5X7 Sadaunbe and the Scotch masking tape for delicate surfaces.

I also played a little with the Fuumuui sketchbook and I love it. The back side of the page isn't completely without texture like specifically made hot press, but the texture is so slight that it's very close to being that smooth.

I have to tell something silly on myself. When I was unpacking and putting away my "art stuff" I found a small packge of cotton paper someone sent to me when I was first learning watercolor when I lived in Washington. It's a few pieces of Arches! I was saving it, of course. LOL I forgot I even had it. I guess I should try it now, huh? It's been 7 years packed away, but if it's still any good, then I'll have something to compare with the cheap papers I've been trying and reviewing. Whenever I do my reviews I always have a little gremlin on my shoulder whispering in my ear that maybe what I'm trying and giving good reviews on just shows my inexperience and someday someone may spend money on something I've thoroughly enjoyed but that they find to be bogus and a waste of time and money. I appreciate that everyone has been so nice to me about that, though and encouraged me to keep sharing..

I have to say that when you order from Fuumuui papers, you have to pay attention because sometimes what you've gotten from them before will not be available but they'll send something else. Here's a for instance---I ordered a 9X12 block and then liked it enough to order a second one to have in stock, so to speak. But turns out, what they sent the second time wasn't a block, it was a pad. But that wan't a mistake on thier part as it turned out. I had actually just ordered one that said "pad" but I didn't read the whole description. I also wanted to order another 5x7 block from them but found only the sketchbook because the little block must have been sold out. I like their paper so well, though, that I'll buy whatever they have if I need paper.

Another Amazon company called Tounalker has cotton paper at $31 for 500 sheets of 5X7 paper and I'm going to try that next month. I'll see if they have a smaller amount first, though, to be sure whether it's good. On that one, it doesn't say it's cotton paper in the title, you have to read the finer print description. That's where it says its cotton paper. If I have to order the 500 sheets, I can share it with my kids, grandkids and great-granddaughter, though. Christmas is coming, after all.
 
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