Theft:

[moonreader123]

Yes, I do agree completely. Also, atists deserve to be much more respected for their original ideas and craftmenship. Especially, when AI was prevalent, it is very easy for the action of copying one's idea, elaborate it more, turning into something of your own. There is such thing as copy right infringement and intellectural patent. Some shape or form should take place for artist.

 

[JStarr]

It's all vanity, of course, from the bad through the mundane to the sublime. As far as art theft, Hirst comes to mind- his work is not only based upon art he had seen before (both the Aztec death mask and LeKay's crystal-covered skull), it's also trite and overdone.

He sued a young collage artist who used parts of photographs Hirst put into the public sphere (Hirst claimed, at first, For the Love of God was so expensive other public showings of the work would likely not happen after the original Tate showing for which advertising pics were taken there would only be photographs. Turns out enough money transformed that bit of hubris into a lie).

Derivative vanity.

For the Love of God - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[JStarr]

Yes, I do agree completely. Also, atists deserve to be much more respected for their original ideas and craftmenship. Especially, when AI was prevalent, it is very easy for the action of copying one's idea, elaborate it more, turning into something of your own. There is such thing as copy right infringement and intellectural patent. Some shape or form should take place for artist.

Actually, posting an original work to this forum is nearly as good as mailing oneself a letter to get the Post Mark. It provides a piece of provenance. Remember that saying "anything you put on the internet lasts forever"? It does- just, some of it is more difficult to get to after awhile. But it is still there; and if you are smart enough to keep a screenshot of the original work/post with its data, it's strong primary provenance.

 

[Bartc]

"Appropriation"? Bullshit in my book. It's theft.
Another article on Lichtenstein

 

[stlukesguild]

Art History is full of examples of "appropriation".

The "idea" of the portraying the Three Graces as a tightly intertwined group of 3 women dates back to the Greeks and continued throughout the centuries after Botticelli revived the theme... likely based on a crude image on a coin...

... before they ended up in his painting, Primavera:

Art and Literature are laden with examples of characters (Moses, Jesus, Zeus, Apollo, King Arthur, Charlemagne, Dracula, etc...) being reimagined over and over. Artists and writers employed these characters and narratives because they were part of a "universally" known narrative or mythology. Today, our "universal" narratives or myths include characters and narratives from comic books, TV, films, photography, etc... Any number of interesting works of art have been created building upon these... but the danger or challenge is that in many instances, these characters/narratives are "owned"... not by the original creators, but by huge, wealthy media conglomerates.

 

[brianvds]

Art and Literature are laden with examples of characters (Moses, Jesus, Zeus, Apollo, King Arthur, Charlemagne, Dracula, etc...) being reimagined over and over. Artists and writers employed these characters and narratives because they were part of a "universally" known narrative or mythology. Today, our "universal" narratives or myths include characters and narratives from comic books, TV, films, photography, etc... Any number of interesting works of art have been created building upon these... but the danger or challenge is that in many instances, these characters/narratives are "owned"... not by the original creators, but by huge, wealthy media conglomerates.

Sad thing is that many of the comic book artists whose work gets appropriated were paid starvation level salaries, and were often not even allowed to sign their work. The companies they worked for got to own the work and the rights to it.

Now AI is beating us all at the game of appropriation.

 

[Artyczar]

Yeah, sometimes it's appropriation, and sometimes it's theft. Isn't it?