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So am I the only one willing to admit to any artistic "guilty pleasures" here? 
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Hooked on Highlander... or rather Highlander II? I had a studio partner fixated on Predator. 
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well… I appreciate the movie
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I was thinking of starting a new thread on "guilty pleasures"... and then found this old one that I had started some 4 years ago. I read through it all again. God! How I miss Musket. 
So among all our members do any of you want to admit to any "guilty pleasures" related to your art? I can probably think of a number of others.
So among all our members do any of you want to admit to any "guilty pleasures" related to your art? I can probably think of a number of others.
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We use Tubi for 'old stuff' and have just watched a few Avengers. Enjoyed them all over again.
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Now that my school year is down to 2 days with students... most of whom won't show up... I have some time again to post here on CS. I thought I might continue with my thread on "guilty pleasures." Certainly, one of my "guilty pleasures"... one I wouldn't have suspected myself embracing years ago... is the use of the color PINK.
While I appreciated the use of pink by Rococo painters (a "guilty pleasure" already mentioned...
... as well as some of the works by Alphonse Mucha...
I first really embraced using PINK in my art as the result of an art class I was taking as part of the requirements to renew my teaching license. At the time, one of the students in the class was a 17-year old girl who defined herself in one critique as a "girly girl" who loved all things PINK:
Disney Princesses:
Victoria's Secret lingerie...
Barbie (the film had not yet come out)...
and Malley's Chocolates... a local chocolatier:
I began to think about using ideas from her aesthetic sense (especially the use of PINK) merged with my own sensibilities... that are admittedly a bit "darker"... "quirky"... "unhinged".
I ended up coming up with a take on Snow White and the Evil Queen called "Fallen Snow" using PINKs as well as the stripes from Victoria's Secret and Malley's packaging.
Since then, I have used PINK in my paintings quite a bit... including in my current work in progress:
I've even taken to wearing the color... getting tired of all the grays and earth tones in men's clothing... and figuring as an
artist/art teacher I might as well look the part:
While I appreciated the use of pink by Rococo painters (a "guilty pleasure" already mentioned...
... as well as some of the works by Alphonse Mucha...
I first really embraced using PINK in my art as the result of an art class I was taking as part of the requirements to renew my teaching license. At the time, one of the students in the class was a 17-year old girl who defined herself in one critique as a "girly girl" who loved all things PINK:
Disney Princesses:
Victoria's Secret lingerie...
Barbie (the film had not yet come out)...
and Malley's Chocolates... a local chocolatier:
I began to think about using ideas from her aesthetic sense (especially the use of PINK) merged with my own sensibilities... that are admittedly a bit "darker"... "quirky"... "unhinged".
I ended up coming up with a take on Snow White and the Evil Queen called "Fallen Snow" using PINKs as well as the stripes from Victoria's Secret and Malley's packaging.
Since then, I have used PINK in my paintings quite a bit... including in my current work in progress:
I've even taken to wearing the color... getting tired of all the grays and earth tones in men's clothing... and figuring as an
artist/art teacher I might as well look the part:
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I love those movie posters! They are works of art without having to watch the movies.
You go in that pink fedora, SLG. Looking fabulous. Agree that men should not be relegated to neutrals - no one should (as I stand here in my black tee shirt and gray shorts)!
I'm trying to think of artistic guilty pleasures, and like Ayin am kind of stuck - if I like it I don't feel any particular guilt in viewing it.
That said, my husband and I have been working our way through Star Trek (the Original Series), and most of it is laugh-out-loud BAD. In many ways. Even while appreciating the production and technical limits of the late 1960s, the scripts and costumes can be wince-inducing. It's enjoyable to see how this series has evolved, with all the applicable canon.
You go in that pink fedora, SLG. Looking fabulous. Agree that men should not be relegated to neutrals - no one should (as I stand here in my black tee shirt and gray shorts)!
I'm trying to think of artistic guilty pleasures, and like Ayin am kind of stuck - if I like it I don't feel any particular guilt in viewing it.
That said, my husband and I have been working our way through Star Trek (the Original Series), and most of it is laugh-out-loud BAD. In many ways. Even while appreciating the production and technical limits of the late 1960s, the scripts and costumes can be wince-inducing. It's enjoyable to see how this series has evolved, with all the applicable canon.
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Mentioned to a friend yesterday ... I find it hard to choose pink paint!
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Well... let's continue on with my artistic "guilty pleasures"... even if I'm mostly only talking to myself. Another "guilty pleasure" that might be found among the true "fine arts" is Mannerism. Mannerism was a period that fell between the Late Renaissance and Caravaggio and the Baroque. It was a period that was almost Modernist in its conscious rejection of Naturalism/Realism and embrace of expressive distortions of color, form, and space. I call it a "guilty pleasure" because it has long been ignored in favor of the Renaissance and the Baroque. I think we spent a day or two on it in my Art History courses... which were quite in-depth. I discovered most of the Mannerist artists I admire by myself.
Arguably, one of the first Mannerists was the German painter, Luca Cranach. It has long blown my mind that many of his paintings are almost pin-ups... painted for wealthy Lutherans. He was also known for his portraits of Lutheran clergy... including Martin Luther.
Mannerism is often attributed to the Sack of Rome which resulted in a backlash against those responsible... and the art of the time (the Renaissance) much as Modernism owes much to a backlash against the powers-that-be that allowed for WWI. Michelangelo's later works are cited as among the first and most influential works on the development of Mannerism.
His use of "shock color" (look at the red shadows in the green fabric), superhuman musculature, explosive poses, and spatial distortions were major influences on the artists immediately following... especially in Italy.
Pontormo...
Allori...
Bronzino...
Parmigianino...
Rosso (Fiorentino)...
... and sculptors such as Cellini all made extensive use of distortions of form (especially anatomy), space, and color and frequently rejected the traditional Renaissance use of a central focal point by consciously leaving the center as a void ("the centre cannot hold..." W.B. Yeats' The Second Coming suggests a similar thinking in the era of Modernism... which again, has frequently compared to Mannerism).
One of my favorite paintings from the whole of the "old masters" is Bronzono's Allegory:
The painting... which is laden with symbolism... yet unlike Renaissance allegories lacks any clear narrative or meaning... is undoubtedly disconcerting... even shocking... especially if you know Greco-Roman mythology enough to recognize that the two lovers are Venus and Cupid (her son).
Arguably, one of the first Mannerists was the German painter, Luca Cranach. It has long blown my mind that many of his paintings are almost pin-ups... painted for wealthy Lutherans. He was also known for his portraits of Lutheran clergy... including Martin Luther.
Mannerism is often attributed to the Sack of Rome which resulted in a backlash against those responsible... and the art of the time (the Renaissance) much as Modernism owes much to a backlash against the powers-that-be that allowed for WWI. Michelangelo's later works are cited as among the first and most influential works on the development of Mannerism.
His use of "shock color" (look at the red shadows in the green fabric), superhuman musculature, explosive poses, and spatial distortions were major influences on the artists immediately following... especially in Italy.
Pontormo...
Allori...
Bronzino...
Parmigianino...
Rosso (Fiorentino)...
... and sculptors such as Cellini all made extensive use of distortions of form (especially anatomy), space, and color and frequently rejected the traditional Renaissance use of a central focal point by consciously leaving the center as a void ("the centre cannot hold..." W.B. Yeats' The Second Coming suggests a similar thinking in the era of Modernism... which again, has frequently compared to Mannerism).
One of my favorite paintings from the whole of the "old masters" is Bronzono's Allegory:
The painting... which is laden with symbolism... yet unlike Renaissance allegories lacks any clear narrative or meaning... is undoubtedly disconcerting... even shocking... especially if you know Greco-Roman mythology enough to recognize that the two lovers are Venus and Cupid (her son).
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Mannerism made a great deal of use of explicit sex and violence... as is clear not only in Bronzino's Allegory, but also Cellini's Perseus with the Head of Medusa. Mannerism was embraced by a good many artists in Holland and Belgium.
Cornelis van Haarlem...
Frans Floris...
Lucas van Leyden...
Hendrick Goltzius... a true connoisseur of sex & violence....
... and Joachim Wtewael, whose painting of Perseus & Andromeda... with the life-size (or over-life-size) nude was undoubtedly shocking for the art in the Netherlands at the time. I have to wonder if Rubens ever had the opportunity to see this painting. Actually, I was lucky enough to see it in person a good many years ago (it is stunning) at the National Gallery of Art.
I suspect Mannerism remains something of an era of under-appreciated "black sheep"... and a "guilty pleasure for those who love it... due to its rejection of Realism/Naturalism. Many cannot fathom how the art of the Medieval period... or that of Modernism... seemingly rejected the masterful Realism/Naturalism that went before. The same may be equally true of Mannerism.
Cornelis van Haarlem...
Frans Floris...
Lucas van Leyden...
Hendrick Goltzius... a true connoisseur of sex & violence....
... and Joachim Wtewael, whose painting of Perseus & Andromeda... with the life-size (or over-life-size) nude was undoubtedly shocking for the art in the Netherlands at the time. I have to wonder if Rubens ever had the opportunity to see this painting. Actually, I was lucky enough to see it in person a good many years ago (it is stunning) at the National Gallery of Art.
I suspect Mannerism remains something of an era of under-appreciated "black sheep"... and a "guilty pleasure for those who love it... due to its rejection of Realism/Naturalism. Many cannot fathom how the art of the Medieval period... or that of Modernism... seemingly rejected the masterful Realism/Naturalism that went before. The same may be equally true of Mannerism.
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I'm enjoying your guilty pleasures. But, I'm more of an observer.
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I'm enjoying your guilty pleasures. But, I'm more of an observer.
Isn't that a large part of art: scopophilia... an aesthetic pleasure drawn from looking at an object or a person?
Isn't that a large part of art: scopophilia... an aesthetic pleasure drawn from looking at an object or a person?
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I think so.
I could not pronounce it let alone know what it means: without google of course.
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If it’s sweet and sad, sentimental and repulsive, cute and creepy, it must be postmodern mannerism
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The art historian Walter Friedländer, early in the 20th century, defined Mannerism as an extension of the High Renaissance style—and an evolution away from its grace and balance. Emotionalism, distortion, the disappearance of symmetry, unnatural or extreme exaggeration, and an unsettling anxiety—these are the signs of the anti-classicism that emerged in the 16th century.
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Maybe it started with the creepy homunculus baby Jesus's? Not sure if the timeline fits. Idea's started to distort realism.
By Kay Larson
The art historian Walter Friedländer, early in the 20th century, defined Mannerism as an extension of the High Renaissance style—and an evolution away from its grace and balance. Emotionalism, distortion, the disappearance of symmetry, unnatural or extreme exaggeration, and an unsettling anxiety—these are the signs of the anti-classicism that emerged in the 16th century.
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Maybe it started with the creepy homunculus baby Jesus's? Not sure if the timeline fits. Idea's started to distort realism.
