Thank you John. I want real but in an unreal way. When you go real you need subdued color because earth colours are very mute. If you paint a tree all bright it looses it's place. If you paint it in an unreal setting then you can use brighter color and it doesn't look out of place. You still see a landscape. It's getting it down to fewer colours and values that seems to work. I don't want to replicate Group of Seven but somewhere between them and Russian Impressionism where they slap a few hues in and you are looking at a barn. I agree, I need a model but then I need to forget about the model like Van Gogh did.